tommyclerk
Rock Stacker
The surpass new brushed combo has released, so I bought some and compared with my HH magnum and BRXL.
They released 11t, 13t, 16t and 20t, 23t will release soon.
540 brushed motor, you can compare the size with my WALL-E.
The combo
The ESC setting program card and the motor wires. And you must change the initial start force to 5% if you want the smoothest and slowest startup.
The ESC has heat sink and water proof switch.
The ESC has a Auto Hold function like the BRXL's Holmes hold, and it can switch from 6.4V to 7.4V with 5A.
T plug and bullet connectors.
The motor is different from the former surp motors. It has a shiny motor can which is CNC machined.
You can see there are lots of heat emission holes on the motor.
24K gold plated solder and anti-interference PCB capacitor, the brushes are from Japan.
The timing range is 0-20
Let's compare to HH magnum. The surpass is little bit longer than the HH magnum, both are 185g weight.
The surpass motor can is CNC machined, the heat emission holes area is bigger than HH magnum. By the way, magnum motor can is from Japan, but I see the heat emission holes look like cheap industry 550 motor.
HH magnum (R)'s connectors are little bigger than surpass (L)'s.
HH magnum brushes are easy to burn, the surface become rough and the motor won't work.
And HH magnum's brushes spring broke when I was in a crawler competition. So my truck lose control and the motor didn't work.
Both rotors are so big, 775 diameter rotor and the rotor 's angle of inclination are the same. When you look closely to the rotor, you will find that the surpass (R) rotor lamination is thinner than HH magnum and will have better performance.
The winding patterns looks similar and the surpass has more balance plasticine.
HH magnum (L) is a 2 pole motor and surpass (R) is 4 pole motor, you can see 4 separate magnets.
The magnetic flux density comparison, you can see surpass has better performance.
ESC comparison, HH brxl is bigger but it support up to 6S lipo, I will use it for my 895 brushed motor in my 1/8 Brabus G550 crawler with 6S. And surpass only support up to 3S lipo.
https://youtu.be/Sa2wJqIj_Rc
Here is my comparison tests which include locked rotor torque, unloaded startup RPM, max unloaded RPM, low speed and smooth startup, drag brake strength and low speed crawl.
My crawler has a small gear ratio with 18t pinion gear, so it is easy to find out the differences of drag brake and especially on the 60° incline. The drag brake of surpass ESC is not as strong as HH brxl, I think maybe the ampere is low. However, the surpass combo is real a bargain that most could afford it and experience the auto hold drag brake and hard to slipe off from incline. The surpass motor has a smoother startup and slower speed control than former motors.
They released 11t, 13t, 16t and 20t, 23t will release soon.
540 brushed motor, you can compare the size with my WALL-E.
The combo
The ESC setting program card and the motor wires. And you must change the initial start force to 5% if you want the smoothest and slowest startup.
The ESC has heat sink and water proof switch.
The ESC has a Auto Hold function like the BRXL's Holmes hold, and it can switch from 6.4V to 7.4V with 5A.
T plug and bullet connectors.
The motor is different from the former surp motors. It has a shiny motor can which is CNC machined.
You can see there are lots of heat emission holes on the motor.
24K gold plated solder and anti-interference PCB capacitor, the brushes are from Japan.
The timing range is 0-20
Let's compare to HH magnum. The surpass is little bit longer than the HH magnum, both are 185g weight.
The surpass motor can is CNC machined, the heat emission holes area is bigger than HH magnum. By the way, magnum motor can is from Japan, but I see the heat emission holes look like cheap industry 550 motor.
HH magnum (R)'s connectors are little bigger than surpass (L)'s.
HH magnum brushes are easy to burn, the surface become rough and the motor won't work.
And HH magnum's brushes spring broke when I was in a crawler competition. So my truck lose control and the motor didn't work.
Both rotors are so big, 775 diameter rotor and the rotor 's angle of inclination are the same. When you look closely to the rotor, you will find that the surpass (R) rotor lamination is thinner than HH magnum and will have better performance.
The winding patterns looks similar and the surpass has more balance plasticine.
HH magnum (L) is a 2 pole motor and surpass (R) is 4 pole motor, you can see 4 separate magnets.
The magnetic flux density comparison, you can see surpass has better performance.
ESC comparison, HH brxl is bigger but it support up to 6S lipo, I will use it for my 895 brushed motor in my 1/8 Brabus G550 crawler with 6S. And surpass only support up to 3S lipo.
https://youtu.be/Sa2wJqIj_Rc
Here is my comparison tests which include locked rotor torque, unloaded startup RPM, max unloaded RPM, low speed and smooth startup, drag brake strength and low speed crawl.
My crawler has a small gear ratio with 18t pinion gear, so it is easy to find out the differences of drag brake and especially on the 60° incline. The drag brake of surpass ESC is not as strong as HH brxl, I think maybe the ampere is low. However, the surpass combo is real a bargain that most could afford it and experience the auto hold drag brake and hard to slipe off from incline. The surpass motor has a smoother startup and slower speed control than former motors.
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