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Super 300/300HD's

I have an ax10 with xr10 mod using vp xr10 knuckle, and am interested in the hd version of universal. Which one should I get? Axial or xr10?
 
what´s include or any pic of the Hd Builders Set (6.5" Blank Inner Shaft).

how long are the Super Berg HD´s. like the normal 300`s or longer.

The builders set is the same as any other set except for the fact that the inner shaft doesnt come with a drive tang on it. you will have to cut your shaft to length and then with a dremel or a belt sander carefully sand/grind your own drive tang. You will want to do this with care to keep it square and centered, as well you dont want to get it hot to the point that it discolors as that will de-temper the shaft

Super Berg HD's will be the same length inner as the Original 300 super berg inner.

Also John does the bearing change if going from normal 300's to the HD 300's"thumbsup"<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

Bearings form one 300 to the other will stay the same

WOOWWWW

awesome !!! "thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

this is what it missing to my XR 8)

I have Vp knuckles, so do I need Wraith knuckles ? or just a adapter ??

sorry but it's not very clear for me :oops:

Your XR knuckles should work fine though the large double arms may not allow all of the steering you are hoping for. depends on your setup. As well I have only test fit stuff with Wraith pieces! Though dimensionally they should be the same where it matters

What does the adpater look like?

They are basically a different flange pipe. I will try and get some pics of them soon

glad to see all the info again"thumbsup"

those price include shipping fee??
and do u include locker for Original 300's(for axial axle)??
also, could u post up some pics?? "thumbsup" that will helps a lot!!

Shipping is not included in the price. Lockers are included for the original axial 300's as well ill fix that in the first post. more pics soon



what ones in HD will i need for RCBros knuckles?

I just talked to William(RCBro) to make sure he didnt have a wraith knuckle out that I didnt know about. He only makes a standard berg knuckle. With that setup you could run a Berg/Berg Original 300, or you will need to get 8* Axial or wraith/xr C's and some wraith/xr knuckles to run the 300HD's. In short your current knuckle setup wont accomadate the HD shafts

Any idea of the weight of the XR ones?

They weigh in at 1.06oz per side(inner/stub/joint)

Hey John!

Could you please post up a picture of the 8* to Wraith knuckles adapter?

Thanks, Juan.

Thats one thing that I dont have any pics of yet. I wont have time getting things ready for pcc to get more pics loaded and try to keep up with everything else. after PCC ill get more pics up for everyone.

I have an ax10 with xr10 mod using vp xr10 knuckle, and am interested in the hd version of universal. Which one should I get? Axial or xr10?

I would assume that you are using stock xr10 inners now, so you would use hd xr10 shafts. When using xr10HD's you will retain your stock locker.
 


Thats one thing that I dont have any pics of yet. I wont have time getting things ready for pcc to get more pics loaded and try to keep up with everything else. after PCC ill get more pics up for everyone.

I've offered to help John with this in the next coming days or a few weeks. Without seeing these things in person, its hard to give it justice, but a few HD videos and high quality pictures should do the trick. "thumbsup"
 
how do you get 70* of steering? with the super 300s i have now my knuckles get into the "C" hubs. so im not sure where the extra 20* is going to be used


my set up right now is Dlux tubes with the VP 8* "C"s and knuckles and super 300 axles
 
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:shock::shock: this takes 'bad ass' to a whole new level. "thumbsup"
 
Here's the pictures as promised. I'll get the video up tomorrow "thumbsup"

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how do you get 70* of steering? with the super 300s i have now my knuckles get into the "C" hubs. so im not sure where the extra 20* is going to be used

Most that use the full 50 in my original shafts don't have steering stops, thus causing shaft breakage by over steering. That is one reason. In my 2.2 s truck I can use 72*, though I won't argue it takes a lot of innovation

my set up right now is Dlux tubes with the VP 8* "C"s and knuckles and super 300 axles

:shock::shock: this takes 'bad ass' to a whole new level. "thumbsup"

Thanks!!

What would need to be done to run the 70* with NON 8* king pins on a Berg?


Build a knuckle that would support the length of the joint like a wraith knuckle


these look fantastic. i can't wait to break an axle so i can get a set. :mrgreen:

That's just a battery pack away then!!!
 
Build a knuckle that would support the length of the joint like a wraith knuckle

If youre adapters work for Axial 8* could I just not get a set of Axial NON 8* and then use the adapters on there?

Your super 300's work with Axial NON 8* and VP 8*, so would this not be the same line of thinking?
 
Any for the super bully?


I haven't had a chance to do fit meant on the stubs to know what you would have to do exactly, though sometime after the weekend I may look at it

If youre adapters work for Axial 8* could I just not get a set of Axial NON 8* and then use the adapters on there?

So I guess that you are asking if you can put a 8* knuckle on a non 8* C. Not thinking that's gonna work out well for ya, though I won't say it can't be done

Your super 300's work with Axial NON 8* and VP 8*, so would this not be the same line of thinking?


As far as thinking I'm not sure what you're thinking. You are confusing 2 different knuckle styles all together . You can't run my original cvds in a wraith knuckle. So why would you be able to put something I've said several times is designed for a wraith knuckle into an Axial style knuckle?
 

As far as thinking I'm not sure what you're thinking. You are confusing 2 different knuckle styles all together . You can't run my original cvds in a wraith knuckle. So why would you be able to put something I've said several times is designed for a wraith knuckle into an Axial style knuckle?

Ok, I see now. I was confused by using Axial C's with Wraith knuckles, I thought you could use Axial 8* knuckles with them. What you said below looks like you can take a Axial 8* knuckle and use and adapter that works like a Wraith knuckle IMO

Axial 8*knuckle to Wraith Knuckle Adapters

Its confusing to say the least. Thanks for not being a dick about it. :flipoff:
 
I agree with Erik, it might be helpful to change the description of the 'adaptors' to say they are basically a top hat with a spacer attached to take up the size difference between AX10 8* and Wraith/XR10 8* C hubs.

Also Erik something like felsenfest knuckles with a longer distance between the bearing and the kingpin hole would be all that is required to use a standard ax10/berg C hub from what I can tell. I think egressor even made a set at one stage to use XR10 uni's on a ax10, maybe I was imagining it though.

EDIT found it http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axle...B4s-high-steering-knuckles-7.html#post3024421

Also does the XR10 set use a axial style drive tang or your usual berg style?

Kieren
 
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Ok, I see now. I was confused by using Axial C's with Wraith knuckles, I thought you could use Axial 8* knuckles with them. What you said below looks like you can take a Axial 8* knuckle and use and adapter that works like a Wraith knuckle IMO



Its confusing to say the least. Thanks for not being a dick about it. :flipoff:

Maybe ask for a picture instead if you don't understand....:-o

I agree with Erik, it might be helpful to change the description of the 'adaptors' to say they are basically a top hat with a spacer attached to take up the size difference between AX10 8* and Wraith/XR10 8* C hubs.

Also Erik something like felsenfest knuckles with a longer distance between the bearing and the kingpin hole would be all that is required to use a standard ax10/berg C hub from what I can tell. I think egressor even made a set at one stage to use XR10 uni's on a ax10, maybe I was imagining it though.

EDIT found it http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axle...B4s-high-steering-knuckles-7.html#post3024421

Also does the XR10 set use a axial style drive tang or your usual berg style?

Kieren

You seem to get it."thumbsup"
 
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