So I just got back from visiting my son's teacher...

[JasonInAugusta]

I think your boy is cool. 8)

Back in the day my Pops told me that if you fight in school you're a pu$$y cause you know it'll get broken up. This is so true.

The last incident I remember occurring back in high school was with this short kid... a year younger than me. Out of the blue this kid comes up to me and calls me out. I say to him "what did I do to piss you off". He says "you know what you did". Now... while in high school I never got into a fight in school... only after school... otherwise my Pops would kick my a$$. So I start to thinking this kid thinks I'm a pu$$y. So I say to him "I can't fight you in school, but if you like I can meet you at Kalapaki." He said "shoots... after school then." So I go to my next class and my friend tells me "brah that kid just like act... he trying to impress his friends." I say "no worries... I no going hurt him to much." The day goes on and I'm in the last class... Then out of the blue a school councilor has me called into his office. When I get there he says to me that I have to call my father. He lets me use his telephone and leaves the office for me to have my privacy. On the phone I say "whats up dad... what you need." He says "I just got a call from a lawyer that represents a woman who claims that you're planning to hurt her son." I said "what the hell, this random kid comes up to me today and calls me out... I told him that I'd be happy to fight him after school." My Pops said "son you can't fight this kid, his lawyer threatens to take everything we got.. house and all." So the next day I get confronted by this kid again. He comes up to me and says "what you f**king pu$$y, how come you neva show up." I said "brah no talk sh!t, your lawyer had call my parents." Then this kid pushes me... and a second later his older brother steps in. The older brother says to the younger "brah you better cut it out, you embarrassing me... no go calling out somebody and then go call mom and cry for our lawyer to threaten them."
The whole crowd starts roll laughing at this kid. :lmao:

Still cracks me up when I think about it.
Memories....

You know what's funny about that?

I spent three years stationed in Hawaii and I can completely hear the conversation taking place - enunciation and all.

 

[crazy_kanaka]

You know what's funny about that?

I spent three years stationed in Hawaii and I can completely hear the conversation taking place - enunciation and all.

That's awesome. I was afraid for a moment that nobody would know what I was talking about.

 

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

This will be your fault why he does this. Its what the children see at home.

of course this world babies and caters to children . God forbid a kid gets slaped by his parents when he misbeahaves :twisted:. Now its called a time out .... :roll:

Kids cant even play dodgeball in school anymore. They are fag-a-tiezing kids these days . One reason why I dislike children and will not be having any.,

Good luck with your situation.

To bad your mom and dad didn't think like you.:mrgreen:

 

[PROTOTYPE]

To bad your mom and dad didn't think like you.:mrgreen:

But honestly , when you were a kid Ricky wasnt it different ? I heard they cant even let kids were sports jerseys of the kids favorite team . Only if its the schools team .

The school systems just suck now a days . :|

 

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

But honestly , when you were a kid Ricky wasnt it different ? I heard they cant even let kids were sports jerseys of the kids favorite team . Only if its the schools team .

The school systems just suck now a days . :|

I'm just giving you a hard time. I got 7 kids and I'm raising 2 granddaughters. I've spanked everyone one of them ,some more than others. I had 1 of my kids tell me he was going to call the cops on me and I told him that I would spank the cop too. :mrgreen:
Don't think that I'm a mean old guy. I never had to spank them that much. I really would rather Talk to a kid and tell him that they have to learn to make the right choices in life. And if they make the wrong one they have to pay the price for their choices.
95% of the time the talk worked. I always used my open hand on their butt. I feel that gets the point across.

Some of my kids grounding worked the best, but that didn't work on some of the others. Some I could raise my voice to and that would work. Some just needed a spanking. Like the one that is the father to the girls I've been rasing. But I love them all the same.


PS, I tought them to defend them selfs too. My 2 girls could whip their bothers and their boyfriends.:mrgreen:

 

[Rc_Kid]

I find that funny, In Kindergarten I had no problems, but in head start the only problem I had was over the tricycle I was like the mob boss of them always had to be one or I would confront someone:ror:. Thank god I out grew that.

Now I find it weird they don't have the teachers watching them, when I was in kindergarten they had half the teachers watching and the other half ate lunch then it switched all the teachers who ate had class now and the ones who didn't eat ate then.

Now in high school my freshman year a friend of mine told a kid I wanted to fight him, kid comes up to me in the locker room "says I hear you want to fight me I'm like I never said that but if it's gonna happen just throw the first punch, so we look back and the kid who said it's there I walk up like WTF man why did you say that to this kid he's like idk I am like if you ever do it again I will hang your ass from the F**king flag poll" and ever sense he's never started rumors again.


Just be glad it's not a high school where the teachers don't tolerate crap, I got suspended for a full week cause I didn't get off a computer when I was supposed to, it was 3 minutes to the bell also.

 

[BJoe]

I'm suprised the lunchroom ladies let that get that far, When Mom did that job she'd have gone after them ASAP, even if I was th one being the aggressor!

 

[caymin last]

School rules about defending ones self against bullies are so out of touch with reality it's not even funny, our school district has a 'Zero Tolerance' policy, so both defender and agressor get punished. At a parent teacher conference, my son who is in 4th grade told the vice princepal ' I'm not a trouble maker, but if someone hits me, I will defend myself ', she reminded him of the rules and he told her it's a matter of 'self esteem', she had nothing further to say.
My daughter has the same attitude, and since starting high school has had no problems.
I have taught them that violence is not a solution, but when the situation demands it, defending yourself is an option.

 

[BLOODBANE]

Its a zero tolerance policy the schools have taken. My son is in K also and there have been problems already. He has a attention problem and we have been working on it since pre-school(my children are adopted, so there are also some other underlying problems). When we had our first parent/teacher meeting the teacher said that if my son hit another student he would miss recess, then she said that they decieded that it should go for the whole class. O.K. I don't have a problem with that, but it sounds like he was having to do that and not the rest of the class. I'm a rancher and rancher raised. I expect the rules to be followed. By teaching them the rules are in place, for their safety(not to be mean), hopefully they will grow into productive adults.
Another thing the teachers have to remember is that school has been in session for a while now and the kids are getting comfortable with each other and that they will find out the pecking order. Just human nature.

 

[Cloak]

Ahh, kid fighting stories.

My oldest son, 1st grade, had been in karate for 6 months with it drilled in his head that you don't hit first, martial arts is for self-defense and self-discipline. Always use your head before you use your fist. He understands this very well because he's afraid of his sensei (a woman at the time) would kick his butt if he got in trouble for fighting.

Cue the 5th grade bully. He comes over and picks on some of Nathan's friends. They try to walk away and the kid starts pushing them around. No duty (teacher) around during recess to see all this.

Nathan tells him to cut it out. Boy comes over and pushes Nathan. Nathan says "This is the second time. Cut it out, leave us alone, we just want to play on our own."

Third strike.

The kid shoves Nathan, w/o even winding up, Nathan nails him square in the nose and he starts bleeding immediately. The 5th grader runs off and happens to run in to a duty. She's worried and asks him what happened. "I fell".

Moral of the story, better to say you're a dumb lummox than you got your ass kicked by a little 1st grader. :twisted:

All this was retold to me in detail by my son and his friends who still hold him in high regard for standing up for all of them. He really is the runt of the bunch. He's by far the shortest of his friends. He's also testing for his Jr Black belt (red in our system) in January.

I had a good long talk with him about not hitting. He said he understood but the guy was too big and he was hurting them. He man-ed up and told his sensei himself what he did. He apologized and said he'd take whatever punishment was coming his way for hitting someone outside the dojo. He was just reassured that he shouldn't hit someone, but self-defense is right as long as it is controlled.

 

[Rat1]

JIA, First of all, suggest the teacher or monitor sit were they can keep an eye on the boys without being noticed.

I just had a boy this past late summer. If he is anything like me then I am going to be in a world of trouble.

But get that boy something good.

 

[Tortuga275]

Teachers don't listen to both sides of the story anymore.
Two years ago when I was a high school senior I got suspended because I beat some kid that pulled a knife on me in the parking lot. They told me that they didn't see the kid holding the knife, which was two feet away from were I was, so they couldnt tell that he had pulled the knife and he didn't get in any kind of trouble at all.
So moral of the story teachers can't and won't put two and two together, they just do whats easier for them.

 

[BJoe]

JIA, First of all, suggest the teacher or monitor sit were they can keep an eye on the boys without being noticed.

X2 here Jason, sounds like half the problem is the lunchroom monitors, so you'll be better off with his teacher it looks like. If she won't, then go to the principal and start raising some hell.

Teachers don't listen to both sides of the story anymore.
Two years ago when I was a high school senior I got suspended because I beat some kid that pulled a knife on me in the parking lot. They told me that they didn't see the kid holding the knife, which was two feet away from were I was, so they couldnt tell that he had pulled the knife and he didn't get in any kind of trouble at all.
So moral of the story teachers can't and won't put two and two together, they just do whats easier for them.

I'm hoping that the teacher is concerned/baffled enough by this whole thing to not be that way. That could be how the lunchroom staff is though and why it keeps happening and their teacher is the only one catching it.

Hey Jason, do you know if the other kid has had letters sent home with him or is Jeff the only one getting them?

 

[JasonInAugusta]

Hey Jason, do you know if the other kid has had letters sent home with him or is Jeff the only one getting them?

No, he hasn't had letters sent home...not until I spoke with his teacher and explained what Jeff had told me.

Seems the last half of everything is what is being seen...not the inciting incident.

After speaking with his teacher she said she'd send a not home to the kids parents.

 

[Tortuga275]

Thats what most teachers do they dont discipline the cause of the problem just the one they see react.

 

[danielk]

Is anyone else wondering what kind of parents name their kid Melvio?

 

[BJoe]

No, he hasn't had letters sent home...not until I spoke with his teacher and explained what Jeff had told me.

Seems the last half of everything is what is being seen...not the inciting incident.

After speaking with his teacher she said she'd send a not home to the kids parents.

Good, I was hoping she was ahead of the curve on that but atleast she's willing to do so now.

Thats what most teachers do they dont discipline the cause of the problem just the one they see react.

And that's why I asked, but then again teh HS I went to would have suspended both of people involved in a fight, even if one of them was tied up and couldn't defend themselves.

Is anyone else wondering what kind of parents name their kid Melvio?

I wondered the same thing.....then I realised I might really not want to know that answer!