N.A.'s "Grumpy" (My pimp cane clod super)

[Nova's Ark]

I have been putting in long nights working on this rig. Unfortunately I am experiencing a number of problems.

Thursday night I bench tested everything with no wheels and it worked great. I installed the wheels, set it down on the floor, the front servo turned left, turned right, then it glitched, locked up and in 10 seconds the front servo caught fire!

Today I received shipment from RCP for an order of parts for another crawler I am planning to build. In that order was a new Hitec 5955 TG servo. So I tried it again tonight and the same thing happened. It worked normal for 10 seconds or so, then glitched and the servo got hot. Only I unplugged the battery before anything could thermal.

Also, the 23mm hexes are too narrow. The tires are rubbing on the ESC boxes and the body. I searched ebay and online looking for offset 23mm hubs to fit directly over the TTR CVD's and didn't find anything I liked. So after some thought I decided to modify the ones I already had that I wasn't going to use.

This is the stock plastic TTR hub with the 23mm adapter hex. It too wide for my taste and I hate the idea of the plastic hub:

In my opinion the plastic hub is the weak link. So in order to use the solid aluminum hex with a 3mm drive pin, I have to modify them myself.

Drilled with a 3mm bit for the drive pin and also drilled 8mm for the CVD hub.

Old 23mm hub that is too narrow:

New modified 23mm hub:

 

[Nova's Ark]

I am not ready to post body off pics until I can clean up the wiring and get everything working properly. I did want to at least post a few up quickly though:

 

[run2jeepn]

Where ever your posting you pic's from, my Work blocks them everytime..

 

[Nova's Ark]

Where ever your posting you pic's from, my Work blocks them everytime..

Well that sucks. I am posting them from Flickr. Here's a direct link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8179183@N05/

Did you ever find those bead locks for me? It's only been a few weeks:lol:

Do you have any idea what is up with servo burning up? You have a lot of experience with DX6, dual esc's and dual servos.8)

 

[run2jeepn]

Well that sucks. I am posting them from Flickr. Here's a direct link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8179183@N05/

Did you ever find those bead locks for me? It's only been a few weeks:lol:

Do you have any idea what is up with servo burning up? You have a lot of experience with DX6, dual esc's and dual servos.8)

Ya Flicker is Blocked.. Shot me a PM on the Beadlocks. I just got a new set. I'm trying out. They are Plastic, but have Alumn Centers with 17mm Hex's.

As for the servo.. Which servo is burning up?

 

[Nova's Ark]

Ya Flicker is Blocked.. Shot me a PM on the Beadlocks. I just got a new set. I'm trying out. They are Plastic, but have Alumn Centers with 17mm Hex's.

As for the servo.. Which servo is burning up?

PM sent;-).

As for the servo, it's only when I have two Hitec 5955 TG's installed and it's which ever servo is plugged into the Elevator port on the AR6000. I have a thread started about the issue in the Electronics section:

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126191

 

[Nova's Ark]

This rig is on hold indefinitely. I smoked a second NEW Hitec 5955 TG servo this afternoon. I had attempted the wiring fix mentioned in the electronics thread linked to above. Either I wired it right and the BEC is bad, or the servo was bad, or karma is out to get me. Either way, two New servos costing $250 total is enough and this rig is going to sit.:x

 

[carver]

Very nice build, so far! too bad about your servos. I'm in the process of building my pimp cane super, thanks for the ideas.

 

[Nova's Ark]

Very nice build, so far! too bad about your servos. I'm in the process of building my pimp cane super, thanks for the ideas.

Thank you for the compliment. "thumbsup"

I still have not played with this rig on the rocks and it's disappointing to say the least. It's sitting in a cabinet and it looks awesome:lol:. I am waiting for run2jeepn to do his "How To 1/4 scale servo" on his new super build. I sent the burned up Hitec 5955 TG servos back to Hitec and they sent me two new ones"thumbsup". I do not want to take the chance of burning them up again, so I am holding off on installation. I was thinking of calling Holmes Hobbies to get his advice, but then again, I am also thinking of just installing 1/4 scale servos and being done with it.

Another factor holding me back is the lack of a Super Class in my local area TXRCRCA chapters. I had originally rushed to finish the Super to run it in the points series for '09, but when I missed the first DFW chapter comp due to the servo issue, and then the local ETC chapter has no Supers to run, it is forcing me to let this Super sit. I already know that a Hitec 5955 TG gets very hot when moving these big tires in a Super, so rather than waste more time or money, I might as well be patient. So that is what it's doing:-(.

 

[carver]

Thank you for the compliment. "thumbsup"

I still have not played with this rig on the rocks and it's disappointing to say the least. It's sitting in a cabinet and it looks awesome:lol:. I am waiting for run2jeepn to do his "How To 1/4 scale servo" on his new super build. I sent the burned up Hitec 5955 TG servos back to Hitec and they sent me two new ones"thumbsup". I do not want to take the chance of burning them up again, so I am holding off on installation. I was thinking of calling Holmes Hobbies to get his advice, but then again, I am also thinking of just installing 1/4 scale servos and being done with it.

Another factor holding me back is the lack of a Super Class in my local area TXRCRCA chapters. I had originally rushed to finish the Super to run it in the points series for '09, but when I missed the first DFW chapter comp due to the servo issue, and then the local ETC chapter has no Supers to run, it is forcing me to let this Super sit. I already know that a Hitec 5955 TG gets very hot when moving these big tires in a Super, so rather than waste more time or money, I might as well be patient. So that is what it's doing:-(.

I'm in the same boat, I have a roller just waiting on motors and servos. 1/4 scale servos do sound like the right path to take. sorry about the servo problem. I have just a few questions about grumpy, what is the wheel base? width? and, is that a standard bed proline body or is it the long bed? my club is weak in the superclass as well, i'll be the 4th entry. oh yeah, also how wide did your wheels end up at? thanks

 

[Nova's Ark]

It's Alive!!!

Oh Yeah!!! It runs!!! I ran my first complete battery pack ever through my Super today! I am very excited to have finally finished this project. I was looking over Sparky J's Super last night and I finally figured out what I did wrong that nuked the servos.

Here's what I did wrong. I ran the servo ground wire and the servo signal wire to the receiver while running the servo red wire to the CC BEC. Then I kept the small red wire from Mamba Max ESC #1 to the receiver in order to power the receiver. I had removed the small red wire from the Mamba Max #2. What I didn't realize, was that the Mamba Max voltage was adding to the CC BEC voltage to the servo through the servo ground wire. That is why within 10 seconds of the Super being plugged into the battery, both the servos caught fire. It must have been 10 volts easily to the servos.:shock:

In looking over Sparky J's Super last night, I noticed he ran both servo red and black wires to the CC BEC and only the signal wire from the servos to the receiver. Sparky J is only running one Mamba Max ESC and he left the small wire in to power the receiver.

I duplicated his wiring into my Super today and everything work perfectly. I now have one complete battery pack through the Super. I have my DX7 programmed and mixed. I have made some changes and adjustments to the Super since I last updated this thread back in August:shock:. I will post some pictures and details later. I was just so excited I had to post up and share.:lol:

 

[bullet1231]

grats on making it work, i just recently finished mine aswell but havent made a build thread,lol, anyways enjoy bro.

 

[jedsled]

ya, congrats! wiring is definately not my strong suit either... i was easily as confused trying to wire mine up. yours looks great! thats a neat trick- getting weight inside the axles.

 

[Nova's Ark]

I'm in the same boat, I have a roller just waiting on motors and servos. 1/4 scale servos do sound like the right path to take. sorry about the servo problem. I have just a few questions about grumpy, what is the wheel base? width? and, is that a standard bed proline body or is it the long bed? my club is weak in the superclass as well, i'll be the 4th entry. oh yeah, also how wide did your wheels end up at? thanks

Sorry it took so long to reply.

Wheel base came to 17.75 inches
Track width 14.25 inches with the shortened wideners
The bed is the long bed '72 C10 for the revo, maxx, lst2, etc.
I will have to double check on the bead lock width.

grats on making it work, i just recently finished mine aswell but havent made a build thread,lol, anyways enjoy bro.

Thanks and now you will enjoy the TTR BTA steering kits on your Super;-).

ya, congrats! wiring is definately not my strong suit either... i was easily as confused trying to wire mine up. yours looks great! thats a neat trick- getting weight inside the axles.

Usually wiring is easy for me:roll: but this one had me stumped for some time. Plus I was :-x extremely angry I smoked two new $100 servos. So I let it sit a few months while I focused on my 1.9 scaler and 2.2 comp rig. After seeing Sparky J's Super set up and realizing where I went wrong in the wiring, it was like "DUH!, Why didn't I see that?" Thanks for the kind words on the build. "thumbsup"

 

[Nova's Ark]

Update

Just to update, Grumpy is no longer together. bullet1231 now has the TTR BTA's and the pimp cane is for sale. I am saving the axles and electronics for a new build.

 

[bullet1231]

thanks, the TTR BTA will go to a good home.