dna4engr
Rock Crawler
Good Day Ladies. Well it's been raining like crazy and the leaves are falling and the Howl Krawl is behind us. Now it's time to start thinking about next year.
This thread is not a "this is what the rules for 2016 will be" thread. It's a thread to throw out ideas that we can discuss at the winter club meeting (which will be sometime in November).
There will be a separate discussion about Schedule early in the spring. We can discuss the idea of a national type event at the winter meeting.
We had a great 2015 with significant increases in competition and performance of rigs on the rocks. Some might say a few rigs pushed the current rules (which are really loose anyway) a little far. Well here is your chance to propose your idea of how the classes could be better.
There is a key mission statement that drove a lot of success this year and that's a "Run what you Brung" mentality. We don't have the resources (or the time for that matter) to fully tech every rig the morning before a comp. However, there should be a generally agreed upon message within the club of what is and what isn't scale in the 1.9 and 2.2 classes.
This is an open discussion, but here are some seed topics I'd like feedback from club members on.
Classes:
2.2 Pro, 2.2 Trail, 1.9 Trail are pretty much a given for next year.
2.2 Sporty - are there enough rigs to even think about this class, how would we fit it in to the Sunday comps?
Running Order:
- We run the Pro, 2.2, 1.9 order for a reason (makes course setup easier as it's easier to identify how to make a course easier than harder)
- Would changing the running order help/hurt attendance? (i.e. if we run 1.9 first, everyone will be gone for 2.2 Pro)
- Is there a way to engage the new guys with 1.9 only into the 2.2 Pro and 2.2 Trail comp runs???
1.9 Trail Rules:
- My stab at a mantra for 1.9 would be like class 2. A scale appearing rig that has been modified for offroad use and may or may not be street legal (if it was 1/1). The goal is to mimic something that could actually be built in 1/1.
- Do we make this more restrictive like it was 2 years ago? Bumpers required, ladder frame chassis, metal frames, no knuckle weights, etc??
- Again this is a discussion thread so we aren't making decisions here.
- Also, the winning rig in 1.9 trail this year easily meets all the old rules. However, they exclude rigs like the twin hammers and gmade R1 (sorry Chuck :mrgreen
2.2 Trail Rules:
Similar situation to 1.9 but with a lot more leeway.
- My stab at a mantra for 2.2 would be like class 3. A scale appearing rig that has been heavily modified for offroad use and is likely not street legal (if it was 1/1). The goal is to mimic something that could actually be built in 1/1.
- The Wheely king and Axial Ridgecrest/deadbolt all qualify in Class 3 Sorrca because they are OEM with TVP chassis. Do we allow OEM chassis and require ladder frames on all custom chassis? Are 100% steel tube frames ok?
- The scale of the chassis or body used needs to be discussed too. 1/10 and 1/8 scale body/chassis designs only??
- What about bumpers, knuckle weights, etc??
2.2 Pro Rules:
I don't know if we have any issues here
Last item I want to discuss is the U4 racing possibilities for 2016.
- The track in Lake Elmo is coming along great and there will be some fun times next year.
- We'll talk about frequency of events at the winter meeting.
- I more so want feedback on classes. If you look at U4RC.com, there are a ton of classes. I admit it's not fair to run a brushless twin hammer against a stock 1.9 scx10, but I don't think we'll have the numbers to run like 6 classes (plus it would take all the fun out of it!!)
Just spitballing here.
What about the following:
Yeti class
2.2 solid axle class
1.9 Brushed class
1.9 Brushless class
Of course, it depends on the number of folks there, but it's an idea. If we don't have enough 2.2 solid axle rigs they race against the Yeti's. Same in the 1.9 class.
Give me your thoughts guys!!
This thread is not a "this is what the rules for 2016 will be" thread. It's a thread to throw out ideas that we can discuss at the winter club meeting (which will be sometime in November).
There will be a separate discussion about Schedule early in the spring. We can discuss the idea of a national type event at the winter meeting.
We had a great 2015 with significant increases in competition and performance of rigs on the rocks. Some might say a few rigs pushed the current rules (which are really loose anyway) a little far. Well here is your chance to propose your idea of how the classes could be better.
There is a key mission statement that drove a lot of success this year and that's a "Run what you Brung" mentality. We don't have the resources (or the time for that matter) to fully tech every rig the morning before a comp. However, there should be a generally agreed upon message within the club of what is and what isn't scale in the 1.9 and 2.2 classes.
This is an open discussion, but here are some seed topics I'd like feedback from club members on.
Classes:
2.2 Pro, 2.2 Trail, 1.9 Trail are pretty much a given for next year.
2.2 Sporty - are there enough rigs to even think about this class, how would we fit it in to the Sunday comps?
Running Order:
- We run the Pro, 2.2, 1.9 order for a reason (makes course setup easier as it's easier to identify how to make a course easier than harder)
- Would changing the running order help/hurt attendance? (i.e. if we run 1.9 first, everyone will be gone for 2.2 Pro)
- Is there a way to engage the new guys with 1.9 only into the 2.2 Pro and 2.2 Trail comp runs???
1.9 Trail Rules:
- My stab at a mantra for 1.9 would be like class 2. A scale appearing rig that has been modified for offroad use and may or may not be street legal (if it was 1/1). The goal is to mimic something that could actually be built in 1/1.
- Do we make this more restrictive like it was 2 years ago? Bumpers required, ladder frame chassis, metal frames, no knuckle weights, etc??
- Again this is a discussion thread so we aren't making decisions here.
- Also, the winning rig in 1.9 trail this year easily meets all the old rules. However, they exclude rigs like the twin hammers and gmade R1 (sorry Chuck :mrgreen
2.2 Trail Rules:
Similar situation to 1.9 but with a lot more leeway.
- My stab at a mantra for 2.2 would be like class 3. A scale appearing rig that has been heavily modified for offroad use and is likely not street legal (if it was 1/1). The goal is to mimic something that could actually be built in 1/1.
- The Wheely king and Axial Ridgecrest/deadbolt all qualify in Class 3 Sorrca because they are OEM with TVP chassis. Do we allow OEM chassis and require ladder frames on all custom chassis? Are 100% steel tube frames ok?
- The scale of the chassis or body used needs to be discussed too. 1/10 and 1/8 scale body/chassis designs only??
- What about bumpers, knuckle weights, etc??
2.2 Pro Rules:
I don't know if we have any issues here
Last item I want to discuss is the U4 racing possibilities for 2016.
- The track in Lake Elmo is coming along great and there will be some fun times next year.
- We'll talk about frequency of events at the winter meeting.
- I more so want feedback on classes. If you look at U4RC.com, there are a ton of classes. I admit it's not fair to run a brushless twin hammer against a stock 1.9 scx10, but I don't think we'll have the numbers to run like 6 classes (plus it would take all the fun out of it!!)
Just spitballing here.
What about the following:
Yeti class
2.2 solid axle class
1.9 Brushed class
1.9 Brushless class
Of course, it depends on the number of folks there, but it's an idea. If we don't have enough 2.2 solid axle rigs they race against the Yeti's. Same in the 1.9 class.
Give me your thoughts guys!!
