BC-Brian build body or bodiless

[Duuuuuuuude]

It is Rigid, it can support the weight of the entire rig on its back and not deform. And it is certainly just as rigid as some of the scrawny chassis cabs I have seen.

I will cut out the windows. I will cut out the sides. I will use zip ties to mount the body panels.

It will no doubt be rigid, it will not be the same material as a body, it will be structurally complete.

Then where do we stand?

Stand is exactly what we need to do. And by "stand", I mean stand on our bodiless rigs. I know mine would hold my weight, would yours?

What you've done is scratch build a tight fitting body, bolted it on, and called it a bodiless. You've gone one step further than me taking a regular body, bending and tweaking it, bolting it on, and calling it the same.

If you have to use the interpretation of intent as your argument for legality, you've already admitted that you already know that it is not legal.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

Most bodiless chassis can be ran with a cab or a body, the cab is not a structural part of most bodiless chassis.

You can remove the "cab" from most bodiless chassis', set it on a table all by itself, and no one will confuse it for a body.

Set the "cab" in question on a table all by itself...

 

[BC-Brian]

This thread has been altered, moved, cut, and partially deleted. At one point in time it had everyone's opinions about this construction, but now the conversation is no longer clear.

We had unofficially decided, Let me repeate myself, UNOFFICIALLY decided that the initial design is a Body. While it does meet all the criteria for a bodiless design as the rules are written, there is no clear definition of a body. We had thought that a body would be reffered to as a Single piece of material containing a Roof, Hood, and two Side panels (not to be confused with uni-body, whatever that is).

So back to the drawing board it was. A nip here and there and it was looking like a Cab topper that people seemed to be happier with.

Going to get it mounted later but you get the idea. Roof, no hood, no doors.

 

[ROWDY RACING]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

You can remove the "cab" from most bodiless chassis', set it on a table all by itself, and no one will confuse it for a body.

Set the "cab" in question on a table all by itself...

This is out of context, I was not arguing the difference between a body and a cab.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

What is that crazy looking material?

 

[articzap]

So back to the drawing board it was. A nip here and there and it was looking like a Cab topper that people seemed to be happier with.

Going to get it mounted later but you get the idea. Roof, no hood, no doors.

So if I took a Losi MRC body, chopped off the doors and hood, it'd be a bodiless cab?

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

This is out of context, I was not arguing the difference between a body and a cab.

Understood. Some bodiless chassis' can run without the cab portion in lieu of a body.

My point was that once you do set that cab aside, most people will recognize it as a cab, not a body.

 

[ROWDY RACING]

What is that crazy looking material?

I think he said it was delrin.

 

[ROWDY RACING]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

Understood. Some bodiless chassis' can run without the cab portion in lieu of a body.

My point was that once you do set that cab aside, most people will recognize it as a cab, not a body.

I don't think anyone would argue that.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

I don't think anyone would argue that.

But could they argue that the original "cab" in question, if set aside from the chassis, would be recognized as a body?

 

[Waiting Dragon]

there is no clear definition of a body. We had thought that a body would be reffered to as a Single piece of material containing a Roof, Hood, and two Side panels (not to be confused with uni-body, whatever that is).

Going to get it mounted later but you get the idea. Roof, no hood, no doors.

▪ 2.3.6 - Bodied vehicles must be 3” minimum height on sides. No less than 12.5” total length and full original width, and no less than 5” in center.

 

[ROWDY RACING]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

But could they argue that the original "cab" in question, if set aside from the chassis, would be recognized as a body?

They could, but they would be wrong, I think... :ror:

 

[ROWDY RACING]

▪ 2.3.6 - Bodied vehicles must be 3” minimum height on sides. No less than 12.5” total length and full original width, and no less than 5” in center.

So whats your point?

He is trying to make a cab not a body.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

They could, but they would be wrong, I think... :ror:

:ror:

 

[BC-Brian]

I will put up some more pictures with it mounted to make it clearer. It was a molded upper cab. It will sit on top of the SA chassis, which will have a hood and side panels. The cab topper will represent the roof panel.

Material looks wierd cause it bubbled a little in the oven :roll:

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Material looks wierd cause it bubbled a little in the oven :roll:

I'd hate to see what it looks like when it bubbles a lot. :ror:


I honestly like where you are going with these, but you're first attempt was IMO blurring the lines way too much. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can work out...

 

[Waiting Dragon]

UNOFFICIALLY decided that the initial design is a Body. there is no clear definition of a body

So whats your point?

He is trying to make a cab not a body.

My point was to help inform that there is little definition of a body, at least in size, no make, no model. And seems to me there was an initial thought of it being a body.

 

[ROWDY RACING]

My point was to help inform that there is little definition of a body, at least in size, no make, no model. And seems to me there was an initial thought of it being a body.

Gotcha, this has been going on for nearly a week now and things have been twisted, skewed, and deleted to the point where I feel some are more confused now than ever.

 

[BC-Brian]

I'd hate to see what it looks like when it bubbles a lot. :ror:


I honestly like where you are going with these, but you're first attempt was IMO blurring the lines way too much. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can work out...

I'll put smething up soon, might take another stab at the mold, see if we can get some of the "little" bubbles out :lmao:

Whole idea behind this was to push the limits within the rules (Look at what the F1 teams do), not to break em. That's why we put something up about it, who would have thought what would become of a little post :shock::shock:

 

[BC-Brian]

Gotcha, this has been going on for nearly a week now and things have been twisted, skewed, and deleted to the point where I feel some are more confused now than ever.

Definitely agree, I feel for anyone who tries to read this front to back, they will come out with more questions than answers. Ohh well I spose.