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RC4WD 2.2 Mickey Thompson Baja Claw vs. Interco Super Swamper

The new Pit Bulls are way too wide in my opinion, that alone was enough to put me off. I like the Boggers and Baja claws the best.. After running them I can't go back to a tire any shorter, as much as I loved the Ripsaws. It's also why I never did try the tsl-sx.
 
The new Pit Bulls are way too wide in my opinion, that alone was enough to put me off. I like the Boggers and Baja claws the best.. After running them I can't go back to a tire any shorter, as much as I loved the Ripsaws. It's also why I never did try the tsl-sx.

Indeed what puts me off too about pitbull is the width.... They may perform superbly but I want something definitely narrower....


You said ur running both Boggers and Baja claws, which one do u like the most and why? Thanks a lot!

PS: I am just about to order a set of Baja claws in x2ss compound, but will wait for your further input!




- slim -
 
U won't be disappointed with the claws. I was on the fence about mine until I actually got to run them.
Now I like them just as much as my pits
 
My boggers were the old compound that is too hard. They are great in the dirt but mediocre on the rocks. They really need to be modified like cutting out the small lugs and they will work better. I couldn't bring myself to cut them up so I sold them and bought the Baja Claws. Get the x2ss Baja Claws. I do think RC4wd is making the boggers in x2ss but I haven't seen any yet. That would be something to try if you could find them. In that case, I'd say get both. :ror: Boggers for the dirt/mud/snow/trails and Baja Claws for the rocks. "thumbsup"
 
first thing you do is take the rc4wd foams out there way to stiff. tennesse cut them and run the front set backwards

I strongly disagree. That is usually the case with RC4wd foams but with these new Baja Claws, the foams are perfect on my Wraith. They are almost too soft. I don't run any wheel weights. Just a FYI they are mounted on 1" vented VP SLW-4's.

To the OP - Try them unmodified and with stock foams and go from there. There's no reason to mess with it if it works, which in my case that's exactly how it worked out. "thumbsup"
 
Well Guys! I got plenty of inputs and all of them are leading me to get the Baja Claws.... I asked my local shop to order a set in x2ss compound as he has only the x3 in stock (I live in Italy and it takes time to get what you guys get maybe 1 year before in US....) Thanks to all for your suggestions!!!! That helped me a lot! ;)

PS: I will start with stock foams and see how they perform than decide later on, I plan to use narrow wheels, max 1 inch wide, what do you think about these size?


- slim -
 
I ran mine on 3/4 and 1" Liked them both a lot. The 3/4's did suck the side walls in a bit making them more straight rather than ballooney looking. You'll be planty happy with 1" whels
 
I strongly disagree. That is usually the case with RC4wd foams but with these new Baja Claws, the foams are perfect on my Wraith. They are almost too soft. I don't run any wheel weights. Just a FYI they are mounted on 1" vented VP SLW-4's.

To the OP - Try them unmodified and with stock foams and go from there. There's no reason to mess with it if it works, which in my case that's exactly how it worked out. "thumbsup"


How much did youre wraith weigh
 
I run the Claws up front and cut Boggers on the rear. I think it's the best of both worlds. The claws help you get of the rocks and the Boggers gets you through the mud.
 
Well I just weighted myself with and without my Wraith. With no battery it weighed in at 6.6lbs.

The x2ss is so much softer than previous compounds the tires actually need some help now so the stock foams are a little more useful. I had run my old boggers with no foams before they would easily support the weight of the truck without much effort. They wouldn't sidehill worth beans but it was still *impressive* if you can call it that. :lmao:
 
I got feedback about Baja Claw but nothing about the Interco Super Swamper 2.2 TSL/Bogger. Anybody has any experience with these tires?

Thanks a lot again!

I have run the 2.2 RC4WD Boggers a bit. Ran them in the last local TTC. They did very well in some areas and very bad in others. They are very stiff for one. No new news there. They do have very deep tread which is a plus in my opinion. What they did well in:

1: Very muddy parts of the runs that had something to grab on too. Such as the "Tank trap" and "Frame twister" I think we had 15 or so competitors. I won both of those events. I also came in second in the "mud pit". But back to them working in those areas. Both of those courses had planty of roots and rocks mixed in and no "smooth" areas. Roots and all sticking out of the pits to give something for the lugs to grab. Not much of any smooth rock on either of those courses. Just mud pits, log pile climbs, etc. Not as gooie as some of th past TTC's as it was very cold that day. Not completely frozen but it was November in New Hampshire. So the ground and courses were a bit harder (more solid, not difficulty) then other TTC's we have had.

2: Basically were good in areas that "some" ground clearance was a benefit. Due to their height and stiffness they helped keep things above the obstacles. I was running a "Wroncho (SCX10 with Wraith axles)". Some competitors with softer tires or shorter ones would get hung up in areas that I didn't due to ground clearance. But that is not so much related to the tire design as much as it was simply due to height and clearance. It wasn't the "Bogger" tread that accomplished this. But it was the "Bogger" tire I was using and it's height and stiffness that helped there.

What they did bad in:

1: Anything where slick surface came in. In one section there was an obstacle that had a plastic ramp that you drove up on to get to a wooden bridge to cross the trail. I could not get any grip to get up the ramp no matter what I tried. It was pretty funny for everyone. I finally had to back up enough to get a running start and have momentum take me over and onto the bridge. The tires had zero grip on the smooth surface and I was the only one running these tires and the only one that had the issue.

2: I had a bad time on the sled pull. The rig is not a complete lightweight at aprox 7.5 pounds (no cheater weight added for sled pull). Not saying it is cheating as it is in the rules and most everyone did it. I olny mean "cheater" as in not weight the rig runs normally. Alot of the dudes strapped 2 or 3 pound weights to their bumpers (front) to help in traction for the pull. The ground was hard solid dirt/sand. I was running a BRXL on 3s with a HH pro 27 turn so power was not the issue. It was tire spin. I finished mid pack or so in this. As well as many other events that had some slick surfaces to go on. That is the killer for the Boggers. Their tread design and stiffness (stock as I was running them) is where they fall behind.

If you desire to run them in areas where it is very muddy sloppy trail running they will probably be pretty good. but if it includes rock climbs (smoother rock) or slick packed trails they may not be the thing to use. That is just the nature of them and they resemble the full size (1:1) tires in their performance very closely. The same thing that hurts the full size ones hurt the 1/10 ones as well. great in a couple of things but much better choices in the over all scheme. Too much of a specific design to be good over all. Bad A$$ looks for sure. But in the 2.2 version there is a lot better. Oddly I have them in 1.9 as well and those perform much differently. My 1.9's are actually very soft overall and are one of my favorite overall New England wheeling tires I own.

Just my opinions from my personal use and no offence to anyone about what they want to run. "thumbsup"
 
I have run the 2.2 RC4WD Boggers a bit. Ran them in the last local TTC. They did very well in some areas and very bad in others. They are very stiff for one. No new news there. They do have very deep tread which is a plus in my opinion. What they did well in:

1: Very muddy parts of the runs that had something to grab on too. Such as the "Tank trap" and "Frame twister" I think we had 15 or so competitors. I won both of those events. I also came in second in the "mud pit". But back to them working in those areas. Both of those courses had planty of roots and rocks mixed in and no "smooth" areas. Roots and all sticking out of the pits to give something for the lugs to grab. Not much of any smooth rock on either of those courses. Just mud pits, log pile climbs, etc. Not as gooie as some of th past TTC's as it was very cold that day. Not completely frozen but it was November in New Hampshire. So the ground and courses were a bit harder (more solid, not difficulty) then other TTC's we have had.

2: Basically were good in areas that "some" ground clearance was a benefit. Due to their height and stiffness they helped keep things above the obstacles. I was running a "Wroncho (SCX10 with Wraith axles)". Some competitors with softer tires or shorter ones would get hung up in areas that I didn't due to ground clearance. But that is not so much related to the tire design as much as it was simply due to height and clearance. It wasn't the "Bogger" tread that accomplished this. But it was the "Bogger" tire I was using and it's height and stiffness that helped there.

What they did bad in:

1: Anything where slick surface came in. In one section there was an obstacle that had a plastic ramp that you drove up on to get to a wooden bridge to cross the trail. I could not get any grip to get up the ramp no matter what I tried. It was pretty funny for everyone. I finally had to back up enough to get a running start and have momentum take me over and onto the bridge. The tires had zero grip on the smooth surface and I was the only one running these tires and the only one that had the issue.

2: I had a bad time on the sled pull. The rig is not a complete lightweight at aprox 7.5 pounds (no cheater weight added for sled pull). Not saying it is cheating as it is in the rules and most everyone did it. I olny mean "cheater" as in not weight the rig runs normally. Alot of the dudes strapped 2 or 3 pound weights to their bumpers (front) to help in traction for the pull. The ground was hard solid dirt/sand. I was running a BRXL on 3s with a HH pro 27 turn so power was not the issue. It was tire spin. I finished mid pack or so in this. As well as many other events that had some slick surfaces to go on. That is the killer for the Boggers. Their tread design and stiffness (stock as I was running them) is where they fall behind.

If you desire to run them in areas where it is very muddy sloppy trail running they will probably be pretty good. but if it includes rock climbs (smoother rock) or slick packed trails they may not be the thing to use. That is just the nature of them and they resemble the full size (1:1) tires in their performance very closely. The same thing that hurts the full size ones hurt the 1/10 ones as well. great in a couple of things but much better choices in the over all scheme. Too much of a specific design to be good over all. Bad A$$ looks for sure. But in the 2.2 version there is a lot better. Oddly I have them in 1.9 as well and those perform much differently. My 1.9's are actually very soft overall and are one of my favorite overall New England wheeling tires I own.

Just my opinions from my personal use and no offence to anyone about what they want to run. "thumbsup"

Thanks a lot for the detailed and helpful analysis! I got clear picture now... So as usual each field requires specific tires for top performance, as I do not comp (yet) I do not need many tires however good to know what is better for what field/track.... As soon as I get my new tires I will post pics! Thanks


- slim -
 
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