Hey guys,
I just did a search for the Vanquish VTX tires that come on the new Origin and zilch, nada, nuthin' here. So....
I've run a lot of different tires on my rigs - there are 3 Vaterra Ascenders in various stages of modification, and a new Axial Blazer on the SCX10II chassis that is mostly stock.
For this comment I just mounted up the VP VTX on the brand new Raceline replicas that PitBull just introduced -I won a set and appreciate their giving so many sets of wheels here. However trying to mount the VTX's on them was an effort in futility. I did manage to finally get them mounted, but I likely spent the better part of three to four hours futzing with them. The bead is very narrow, and would just pop out as soon as you try to cinch the two wheel halves together and clench the beads.
When I did finally get them mounted they appeared just too small for that rig. It's my main Ascender comp rig with CodyBoy axles, HH motor, HW esc, titanium links...in other words all kinds of goodies. But I had hub weights in the wheels to keep the front down on super steep hill climbing, and without those weights it just didn't do as well. So I took them off and mounted them to some 'chanquish' wheels I had and put them on another chassis I have that is not weighted nor too customized. Oh, and they weren't quite as difficult to mount, but still a challenge - nothing like mounting Proline or PitBull tires on just about any kind of wheel.
VTX performance is pretty good. Actually the stock memory-foam foams did better than I thought they would - once they get some run time on them they compress down a bit and stay there and the traction just gets better and better. Interestingly we've litterly kicked-a$$ on a couple of Origins that have showed up on the rocks. But then that may be setup and driving as much as anything. I don't know if these tires really match the quality of the Vanguish rig. But I wanted to try the tires out especially for their size.
Below is a pic of another rig with the PitBull Rock Beast in the 4.45" size- so not the 'XL's and they are their 'komp' compound which isn't quite the 'alien-snot' of their new 'alien compound', CI-foams. But they grip really well, surprisingly so, and the little rig on the left with beef-tubes and front hub weights is my best climber. So tire size isn't everything, but weighting and setup is, and how you drive.
I have also compared the Proline 'predator compound' in their big TSL, and like the Rock Beast XL it is a stupid-big 1.9 tire. It's okay on some rigs, but others they appear just way out of scale. I would say the RB XL's and the Predator TSL's are very on par as far as traction. I will say that the TSL's just shredded on granite - so bad I took them off after about 7 months of running them, and went back to the Rock Beast XL's.
Other tires I've run are Proline Krawlers (G-8 rubber), Pitbull Braven Ironside in Class-1 size (4.19") and stock Vaterra Ascender TSL's which surprisingly do well if you simple green them and scuff them some, and run some soft foams.
Anyway, getting back to the Rockbeast scalers and the VTX, here's my two rigs with them. The VTX on the right - they are very surprisingly similar in size, both width and height, even though the Rockbeasts are rated at 4.45" tall and the VTX at 4.65" tall. The RB has a profile a little more squared off so I dunno, I think it might grip a little better. And I have better foams in them, just the stock foams that come with the Vanquish tires.
What is interesting is these are both Ascender chassis' but there's no way the one on the right can keep up with the one on the left. ;-) Setup and weighting makes all the difference.
The VTX's up close - they're a nice looking tire, scale look, even if not a copy of a 1:1 offroad tire:
IMO the super big XL tires are just too much for these 1.9 rigs. Traction is king though, for sure. Hyrax's seem to be similar for traction:
I just did a search for the Vanquish VTX tires that come on the new Origin and zilch, nada, nuthin' here. So....
I've run a lot of different tires on my rigs - there are 3 Vaterra Ascenders in various stages of modification, and a new Axial Blazer on the SCX10II chassis that is mostly stock.
For this comment I just mounted up the VP VTX on the brand new Raceline replicas that PitBull just introduced -I won a set and appreciate their giving so many sets of wheels here. However trying to mount the VTX's on them was an effort in futility. I did manage to finally get them mounted, but I likely spent the better part of three to four hours futzing with them. The bead is very narrow, and would just pop out as soon as you try to cinch the two wheel halves together and clench the beads.
When I did finally get them mounted they appeared just too small for that rig. It's my main Ascender comp rig with CodyBoy axles, HH motor, HW esc, titanium links...in other words all kinds of goodies. But I had hub weights in the wheels to keep the front down on super steep hill climbing, and without those weights it just didn't do as well. So I took them off and mounted them to some 'chanquish' wheels I had and put them on another chassis I have that is not weighted nor too customized. Oh, and they weren't quite as difficult to mount, but still a challenge - nothing like mounting Proline or PitBull tires on just about any kind of wheel.
VTX performance is pretty good. Actually the stock memory-foam foams did better than I thought they would - once they get some run time on them they compress down a bit and stay there and the traction just gets better and better. Interestingly we've litterly kicked-a$$ on a couple of Origins that have showed up on the rocks. But then that may be setup and driving as much as anything. I don't know if these tires really match the quality of the Vanguish rig. But I wanted to try the tires out especially for their size.
Below is a pic of another rig with the PitBull Rock Beast in the 4.45" size- so not the 'XL's and they are their 'komp' compound which isn't quite the 'alien-snot' of their new 'alien compound', CI-foams. But they grip really well, surprisingly so, and the little rig on the left with beef-tubes and front hub weights is my best climber. So tire size isn't everything, but weighting and setup is, and how you drive.
I have also compared the Proline 'predator compound' in their big TSL, and like the Rock Beast XL it is a stupid-big 1.9 tire. It's okay on some rigs, but others they appear just way out of scale. I would say the RB XL's and the Predator TSL's are very on par as far as traction. I will say that the TSL's just shredded on granite - so bad I took them off after about 7 months of running them, and went back to the Rock Beast XL's.
Other tires I've run are Proline Krawlers (G-8 rubber), Pitbull Braven Ironside in Class-1 size (4.19") and stock Vaterra Ascender TSL's which surprisingly do well if you simple green them and scuff them some, and run some soft foams.
Anyway, getting back to the Rockbeast scalers and the VTX, here's my two rigs with them. The VTX on the right - they are very surprisingly similar in size, both width and height, even though the Rockbeasts are rated at 4.45" tall and the VTX at 4.65" tall. The RB has a profile a little more squared off so I dunno, I think it might grip a little better. And I have better foams in them, just the stock foams that come with the Vanquish tires.
What is interesting is these are both Ascender chassis' but there's no way the one on the right can keep up with the one on the left. ;-) Setup and weighting makes all the difference.
The VTX's up close - they're a nice looking tire, scale look, even if not a copy of a 1:1 offroad tire:
IMO the super big XL tires are just too much for these 1.9 rigs. Traction is king though, for sure. Hyrax's seem to be similar for traction:
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