Performa p1 radical waterproof brushless combo for crawlers

[TheManOfMiracles]

Just saw this over at bigsquid

PERFORMA P1 RADICAL WATERPROOF BRUSHLESS COMBO FOR CRAWLERS
New from Performa Racing is the Radical Limited Red Rock Edition Crawler Combo. This brushless combo set comes with a waterproof ESC and motor to give you an upgrade in power when off-roading.

* Comes with special “Limited Red Rock Edition” Radical crawling motor
* Includes new Radical Crawler speed controller
* New sensor technology with Crawler Special staggered pole rotor
* Ultra-smooth throttle control without cogging
* 2100kV motor

 

[brimdogg]

Just saw this over at bigsquid

PERFORMA P1 RADICAL WATERPROOF BRUSHLESS COMBO FOR CRAWLERS

New from Performa Racing is the Radical Limited Red Rock Edition Crawler Combo. This brushless combo set comes with a waterproof ESC and motor to give you an upgrade in power when off-roading.



* Comes with special “Limited Red Rock Edition” Radical crawling motor

* Includes new Radical Crawler speed controller

* New sensor technology with Crawler Special staggered pole rotor

* Ultra-smooth throttle control without cogging

* 2100kV motor

Interesting, wonder what Hobbywing ESC that really is?

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[elirgraves13]

Does anyone in the states carry their products?

 

[Voodoobrew]

I worry about that staggered pole rotor. The axe has one of those and it was smaller and weaker then a standard motor. Are there other staggered pole motors with plenty of torque on ?

 

[robert@castle]

I worry about that staggered pole rotor. The axe has one of those and it was smaller and weaker then a standard motor. Are there other staggered pole motors with plenty of torque on ?

As far as I understand it, a stagger pole rotor is used to lower the cogging torque of a motor and lower the minimum RPM, but it will always lower peak torque because less of the magnet is engaged at any give time.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Interesting, wonder what Hobbywing ESC that really is?

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It's probably just something that looks like a HobbyWing.

Has anybody heard of Performa electronics before this? I have not.

 

[brimdogg]

It's probably just something that looks like a HobbyWing.



Has anybody heard of Performa electronics before this? I have not.

After looking at the website, that's what leads me to believe it's just a rebranded Hobbywing.

https://performaracing.com/elektrom...rforma-p1-radical-crawler-bl-combo.html?sl=en

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[JatoTheRipper]

After looking at the website, that's what leads me to believe it's just a rebranded Hobbywing.

https://performaracing.com/elektrom...rforma-p1-radical-crawler-bl-combo.html?sl=en

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Looks are often deceiving. Just because it looks like a HobbyWing ESC doesn't mean it is. I mean there are HobbyWing clones out there that look very similar to HobbyWing products. Some of them even take HobbyWing firmware, but they are not authentic products. They are clones. This ESC could be a clone just as easily as it could be an authentic HobbyWing product.

Here's the ESC by itself.

, ,(PA9360) by Per

 

[JC3]

2100kv. They weren't kidding about it being a crawler motor!

 

[Crawler Cads]

It's $200!
Never heard of them......:lmao:

 

[JatoTheRipper]

It's $200!
Never heard of them......:lmao:

Exactly. You'd have to be either ignorant or a big gambler to buy this system before all the other options out there.

 

[brimdogg]

It's $200!

Never heard of them......:lmao:

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[Stray]

I purchased the ESC!

when it arrives, ill report back

its very cheap. 120AUD delivered. there are no Mamba X under $350 in AUS, and tekins are $400+

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

As far as I understand it, a stagger pole rotor is used to lower the cogging torque of a motor and lower the minimum RPM, but it will always lower peak torque because less of the magnet is engaged at any give time.

Yep, spot on. It's not a silver bullet though. I've made staggered poles for bEMF reasons and it increased startup RPM and smoothness in a bad way. Lowering the cogging torque/ detent force of a motor is a complicated task.

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

Looks like it could be great, could be so so. I imagine market peak is coming soon, RCcrawling has been a fad for at least 15 years now :lol:

 

[GTSLOW]

I purchased the ESC!

when it arrives, ill report back

its very cheap. 120AUD delivered. there are no Mamba X under $350 in AUS, and tekins are $400+

I dunno sir. That comes out to $85 USD for me. You can get a Mamba Micro or a used Mamba Max Pro for under that.

 

[Stray]

Yeah, you lot are super lucky. A trx4 sport costs 600 here

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[Stray]

I love this esc. I have it running a tekin ROC412 2800kv motor and it works really well. I might consider adding a fan in summer, as it gets warm now (not hot, but its only 15deg C here at the moment)

 

[Stray]

Also, my 1080WP esc program card, programs this ESC. You need to use the manual to make sure you have the correct prompts, as they obviously do not line up with the brushed hobbywing.