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Desktop Crawler scale build

OGmicromonster

Rock Crawler
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Upland
Well this is going to be my first attempt at a scale crawler and second crawler of any scale (I've build several other custom RC's before). What inspired me to build this "Desktop Crawler" was a set of Proline Dirt Hawgs for the Mini-T/RC18T. I know I'm probably taking on a huge project (though it's small in scale) by building a scale rig at a smaller scale. It's hard enough to build a scaler that looks half as good as some of the ones I've seen on here. AND I'm sure it's going to be quite a bit tougher building one this size, but what can I say? I like a challenge.:-P Well we'll see how it turns out. It's going to be a bit of a slow build since most of the stuff will have to built from scratch and I'll be learning along the way. But I'll post plenty of detailed photos along the way. So with that said... ON WITH THE BUILD!

The first thing I did was narrow a set of RPM revolvers for the RC18T. Using a cut off wheel mounted in a drill press I set the height of the cutter and hacked nearly half the back side of the rim.

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As you can see I made the back edge slightly lower than the center mounting hub.
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Here is a comparison with the stock setup. (Stock is on the left, narrowed on the right... obviously :-P )
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I still need to make some rock rings for the rims, but I'll leave those for another post... when I actually make them.;-)


Next it was onto the center output gear. I like to figure out how I'm going to get my vehicles moving first before worrying about other stuff. I figure the drive train is the hardest part when configuring one from different components. I'm using an Xray M18 spur gear. It's small enough and fairly easy to get a hold of should I strip it, but I don't see that happening... I hope.

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To make the output cups I cut the center mounting hub from an old set of Mini Quake rims. They fit perfectly inside the spur gears center hole. Almost as if it were made to go in there. But as you can see in the photo above, the spur gear has a flat spot to grab the shaft it's made to go onto. So I cut a notch on the ends of the drive cups to match up with the flat spot on the spur.

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The using a 3x10mm grub screw I fastened the two output cups on either side of the spur gear.

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Now onto the drive shafts. Since I was using Mini Quake rim centers for output cups, I figured I should use the sliders from the Mini Quake for drive shafts. They look pretty much like the real thing.

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So the short end goes into the output cups on the center gear and BAM! Center drive train is set and ready to go.

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This will give you an idea of the wheelbase I'm thinking of working with and how big this thing is going to be.

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At first I was thinking of just soldering some brass tubing together and making a buggy type chassis, but then I got word that PTI Racing was making a 1/18-scale Jeep body. So things changed. I had been browsing the scale forums and saw DISTURBIN' THA PEACE'S Evil Bastard build (and the link within his post) and was immediately inspired by the awesome work. So I got a hold of a clear PTI Jeep body for the Goliath MMT and cut out the hood.

Here is the body as it comes stock (unpainted of course - this one was used for their press release that I painted up for them)
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Here is the hood cut out and ready for mock up.
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Next on the list of things to do are the axles. I'm planning on modeling them after Bruiser axles. So it's a good thing I have my Bruiser to reference. For the crown and pinion gear in the axle I'll be looking at some metal slot car gears.

Until then if anyone has suggestions on how to make things easier or on where to get parts and materials, I'm all ears. :)
 
Dang! I was hoping to be first to show off that same Jeep body! If I'm not mistaken, you are the guy that built the truck that the PTI Goliath is based on, so I know this will be good. The drivetrain already looks rather familiar :)
 
so far im liking your idea's.have you thought of a frame yet?if not give me some specs to work with and i'll draft you up a couple idea's...i already know the wheel base but what about ride height,frame lenght,frame width.bumper built in frame or not.leafs/springs or both...just throw me some number's...and id love to help...
 
K_B: Yeah, I saw the body when they were making the mold a while back and had one of the first pulls. Even back then I knew I could come up with something to use it for other than the MMT. It's a bit longer than a standard Jeep, but since I'm only using the hood, it'll work just fine.

And yes I would be the same guy that built the original micro monster truck. Hence the screen name. :lol: As for the drive train... it's not going to be exatly the same as the MMT. This one will have more of a reduction. That's just the final output gear. There will be more. This thing is going to go sloooooowww.

Ficherry: The chassis is going to be a tube frame for sure. I'll probably just solder some 1/8" (maybe smaller) brass tubing. I have the tube benders already. I'm going to use this (http://www.bluetorchfab.com/gallery/albums/bastard/DSC02504.jpg) as a guide for the frame. I won't know exactly what the length of the chassis will be untili I get the axles done. Thanks for the offer. I'll keep you updated.;-) Most of the truck is designed in my head already. It's just a matter of actually building everything and seeing if they'll work exactly as I think. I will tell you this though... I do plan on putting an interior on this thing. So the electronics will be extremely small and compact.

OH and for the shocks I'll be using some Atech oil filled coil overs for their Leo-X/Bison (alson known as the Venom Mini Giant) thing that I had laying around. I'll post a picture tonight when I get home.
 
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ScGRaceR said:
this is going to be very cool!

the pics are amazing what camera you use?

I have a Nikon D50 SLR digital camera. These were taken with a macro lens and lots of light. That's why they are so detailed. You should have seen them before I shrunk them.
 
Me gusta! I like it! Granted I am a total sucker for small R/C. Have you decided on your axels yet (if you did, I guess I missed it)?
 
Ahh... I re-read the post and saw that you are going to make your own. There is a hobby shop very close to me that specializes in slot cars. If you have any ideas of what you are looking for, I can head over and see how much/stock status of items you might need.
 
Trikster said:
Me gusta! I like it! Granted I am a total sucker for small R/C. Have you decided on your axels yet (if you did, I guess I missed it)?

I did post it at the end of the first post, but I'll put it here again.

I'm going to custom build them. Or at least try. They'll be similar to bruiser axles except a lot smaller. The insides will be almost identical to bruiser axles. I've found some metal slot car crown and pinion gears that will work.

Here's the link.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/bpatto/gears&bearings.html
 
Trikster said:
Ahh... I re-read the post and saw that you are going to make your own. There is a hobby shop very close to me that specializes in slot cars. If you have any ideas of what you are looking for, I can head over and see how much/stock status of items you might need.

Thanks! I may take you up on that offer. Here is a link of what I'm looking at. (the brass set)
http://members.optusnet.com.au/bpatto/gears&bearings.html
 
OGmicromonster said:
Thanks! I may take you up on that offer. Here is a link of what I'm looking at. (the brass set)
http://members.optusnet.com.au/bpatto/gears&bearings.html

Are you looking at the BEV-30,35,40? If so, I will swing by on Friday or Saturday and see what they have. Last time I was there, they had at least 8 slot car tracks with I think 8 lanes a piece... They are heavy duty into slot cars, so I think the odds are good on stock. I will definately let you know if I can make it.
 
Trikster said:
Are you looking at the BEV-30,35,40? If so, I will swing by on Friday or Saturday and see what they have. Last time I was there, they had at least 8 slot car tracks with I think 8 lanes a piece... They are heavy duty into slot cars, so I think the odds are good on stock. I will definately let you know if I can make it.

BEV-30

I'm going to check out a slot car shop around my area too. I'll let you know if I find what I'm looking for otherwise I may end up with the shop by you. I'm going to need two sets (front and rear)

Thanks! I appreciate it.
 
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